Monday, October 8, 2007

Check Your Sources

I recently received this in an email. The first part, relative to Alexander Tyler, I have read before. The statistics regarding the last Presidential election I had not seen nor do I know if they are factual. Anyway, I checked with a usually reliable source and found that, as with so many of this type of email, there are some truths, some lies, and some distortions.

One of the places I checked is http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/tyler.asp. I thought I smelled a rat when I noticed that Professor Olsen (a real person) taught at Hemline University School of Law. Hemline? It turns out that Professor Olson did not do the research, there are inaccuracies in the research, and Alexander Tyler is not the correct person. Read the Snopes.com article for a fuller explanation.

While it is probable that the facts regarding a democratic state are true or plausible, the cause being heralded is done no good through shoddy journalism (or whatever you want to call it). The conclusion to the email is definitely true, regardless of the errors in the preceding paragraphs.

Here is the email:

About the time our original thirteen states adopted their new constitution in 1787, Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor at the University of Edinburgh, had this to say about the fall of the Athenian Republic some 2,000 years earlier:

"A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government."

"A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury."

"From that moment on, the majority always vote for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship."

"The average age of the world's greatest civilizations from the beginning of history, has been about 200 years."

"During those 200 years, those nations always progressed through the following sequence:

1. from bondage to spiritual faith;
2. from spiritual faith to great courage;
3. from courage to liberty;
4. from liberty to abundance;
5. from abundance to complacency;
6. from complacency to apathy;
7. from apathy to dependence;
8. From dependence back into bondage"

Professor Joseph Olson of Hemline University School of Law, St. Paul, Minnesota, points out some interesting facts concerning the 2000 Presidential election:

Number of States won by:
Gore: 19
Bush: 29

Square miles of land won by:
Gore: 580,000
Bush: 2,427,000

Population of counties won by: Gore: 127 million
Bush: 143 million

Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by:
Gore: 13.2
Bush: 2.1

Professor Olson adds: "In aggregate, the map of the territory Bush won was mostly the land owned by the taxpaying citizens of this great country. Gore's territory mostly encompassed those citizens living in government-owned tenements and living off various forms of government welfare..."

Olson believes the United States is now somewhere between the "complacency and apathy" phase of Professor Tyler's definition of democracy, with some forty percent of the nation's population already having reached the "governmental dependency" phase.

If Congress grants amnesty and citizenship to twenty million criminal invaders called illegal's and they vote, then we can say goodbye to the USA as we know it in as few as five years.

6 comments:

Anonymous said...

I also smelled a rat when I saw "Hemline". But when I googled it, not only did I get your post, I got asked if I meant Hamline University. I clicked yes, and found that there is a Hamline University in St. Paul. The writer was just thinking happy thoughts, and relied on spell check, it seems.

Anonymous said...

A simple check of facts on the CNN or Fow Website leads to the fact that there were 29 states for the Dems and 22 for republicans. The brilliant professor that wrote Email about this apparently dosen't even know that there are 50 states plus DC. His numbers add up to 48, as well as being fallacious. I suspect most of the rest is fabrication as well.

Anonymous said...

A newer email circulating:

Professor Joseph Olson of Hemline University School of Law, St. Paul, Minnesota, points out some interesting facts concerning the Presidential election:
• Number of States won by: Democrats: 19 Republicans: 29
• Square miles of land won by: Democrats: 580,000 Republicans: 2,427,000
• Population of counties won by: Democrats: 127 million Republicans: 143 million
• Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by: Democrats: 13.2 Republicans: 2.1
Professor Olson adds: "In aggregate, the map of the territory Republicans won was mostly the land owned by the taxpaying citizens of the country. Democrat territory mostly encompassed those citizens living in government-owned tenements and living off various forms of government welfare..."
Olson believes the United States is now somewhere between the "complacency and apathy" phase of Professor Tyler's definition of democracy, with some forty percent of the nation's population already having reached the "governmental dependency" phase.
If Congress grants amnesty and citizenship to twenty million criminal invaders called illegals and they vote, then we can say goodbye to the USA in fewer than five years. If you are in favor of this, then by all means, delete this message.
If you are not, then pass this along to help everyone realize just how much is at stake, knowing that apathy is the greatest danger to our freedom.

Willard (Bill) Paul said...

Thanks for bringing to my attention the 48 state total. Even though it was in the email, I didn't catch it. Your comment is appreciated

Anonymous said...

Thanks for your blog on Prof. Olson of "Hemline U". Since it's circulating again, I thought I'd check it out, and ended up here. Whenever there's an error in a crucial fact, I think it's indicative of more errors or complete fabrication. I think it's especially important to be skeptical when we're reading something we want to believe!
In the same vein, there is no apostrophe in "feelings" in your introductory paragraph.

Anonymous said...

I received this in an email today after talking with a friend about the 2008 election. The email you posted has had the names changed to McCain/Obama. I decided to do a little digging.

http://law.hamline.edu/node/784

A link to Professor Olson about me. Read the disclaimer on the bottom of his page. It states:

There are a series of e-mails floating around the internet dealing with the 2008 Obama/McCain election and the 2000 Bush/Gore election, remarks of a Scottish philosopher named Alexander Tyler, suicide rates, or ANYTHING ELSE. I did not author any part of either email. I've been trying to kill this falacy for nearly 10 years. I didn't have any part of it in 2000 and I still have no part of the email in regards to the 2008 election